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[staxxy]

"if you lost all that extra weight you would be totally hot"

to whom exactly? And *why* on earth do I want to be attractive to them?

Personally, anyone who is going to be that crass (not to be confused with Krass, who rocks) can kiss my ass. The last thing I want is any reason for them to try and suck oxygen from my personal space.

I am pleased to see jucier women showing up on television. But the movies are so few and far between that it is pretty easy to name them all.

And that's bullshit and needs to stop.

Especially if my experiences are any indication - lots of people think plumper women are HOT HOT HOT.

Let's storm the castle and beat some sense into hollywood. Who's with me?

Comments

[goddesslena.livejournal.com]

As long as we are advocates of people being HEALTHY, regardless of size, then I am with you!

[kaosqueen.livejournal.com]

if you lost all that extra weight you would be totally hot"

yep heard that one many times!

[mahariel.livejournal.com]

Whereas the evil boyfriend from whom my husband rescued me always harped on how I needed to gain weight to be attractive.

Why should we conform to someone else's standards of beauty. Be comfortable in your own skin, and you'll find people who find you attractive for who you are, not for some fantasy image they have in their brain of what the perfect person should be.

I personally find a rubanesque woman to be much more attractive than an anorexic stick insect.

-Victoria

[spitkitten.livejournal.com]

You know I am with you.

[icprncs.livejournal.com]

"if you lost all that extra weight you would be totally hot"

Yes, I'm sure that's why my husband continues to drool over me and moan enthusiastically about my figure. Because I'm not hot.

It's not the lack of finding people my size hot that bugs me. It's the lack of good sense and basic social skills in expecting other people to conform to their tastes.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

that's a lot of my inspiration really. the yoyo dieting that is the result of the "you are too fat" mindset, no to mention all of the eating disorders, are long over due for an end.

People should be healthier, but that doesn't always mean they should be *thin*.

and Hollywood is particularly nasty about anything over stick thin.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

have you heard it from anyone you would want to think you are attractive?

and, for the record, even before I met you, all I have ever heard about *you* is how mind meltingly hot you are.

and, naturally, all of those opinions concurr with mine. ;)

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

which is the flip side of the coin, exactly.

I am all for people being healthy and happy and sexy, just the way they *are*. And Hollywood needs to embrace that ideal.

Fashion shoots ought to as well, but usually the runway models are also the photo models. And runway models are specifically meant to actually be built like hangars. So I doubt that will ever change.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

I do. :)

[gwywnnydd.livejournal.com]

You go girl! :)

Yeah, I've never understood the point behind "If you weren't, y'know, *you*, I'd be totally into you..."

[savannarama.livejournal.com]

I think statements like that are 1) cheap sadistic thrills 2) a quick & valuable clue as to someone's values & social skills 3) often a subconscious test to see if the woman's self esteem is low enough to permit further boundary-fuckery.

Have you watched Carnivale? Beautiful depression-era sets, cool costumes, great actors, nice creepy story. Cancelled after 2 seasons (the story moved a frustratingly slow for American audiences, apparently) but still utterly worth watching via Netflix. There is a dancer character on there, full-figured in her late 30's or early 40's, who is hot and an inarguable sex symbol and totally meant that way. She was awesome.

I know there isn't a slew of such characters, but every single one helps and I'm happy every time I see it.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

yes indeedy. I gained 20 lbs while I was laid up and could not walk - I feel heavier, and like I am really lugging the weight around; Spydrman thinks I am even hotter than I was before I fell. Heh.

The irony is that it is often people who think they have such good manners that say these sort of things.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

heh, exactly.

"you know, I would be totally into you if you just toned it down a little" (actually got that one a couple of times) responded to with "BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA"

[savannarama.livejournal.com]

Sadism. Also, if someone is in a bad place and seems flattered by the comment, the utterer thinks "Maybe I can use them for sex, or rent."

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

I want to see Carnivale soooo bad.

and yup, exactly.

This sort of behavior (even just similar) makes me want to punch people in the nose. One quick, but incredibly firm, jab.

[savannarama.livejournal.com]

Oo, dangerous! I had a boyfriend once, when I was quite naive, who worked to squelch me socially and asked me very sweetly not to wear new clothes out in public unless I wore them "for him" first...tried to tone me down in a million little ways.

And then he had the nerve to tell me "you're not as fun as you used to be."

(I left).

[savannarama.livejournal.com]

Oh, it's so good! :D I think you will love it. If I owned it I would lend it to you.

[cupcake-goth.livejournal.com]

I had that exact statement said to me.

By someone I was dating.

(And I know you know who said it.)

[bittergourd.livejournal.com]

i have the first season... it will be loaned to you on sunday :)

[girltard.livejournal.com]

I'm with ya! As long as we make it the other way as well. I'm sick of being told how hot I could be if I ate. Heh...Like I need to eat even more than I already do!

Yeah, people with that kind of attitude tend not to be people worth the interest.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

ass hat.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

HBO, isnt it?

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

you really are the best.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

and his ass is still mine first, should he he ever set foot on Seattle soil again... or, you know, be within arms reach anywhere I happen to go.

[staxxy.livejournal.com]

exactly