ummmm WTF?

Feb. 6th, 2005 01:54 pm
staxxy: June 2018 (frustrated)
[personal profile] staxxy
seen in the comments on a friend's LJ
"you should use protection until you know him better..."

Is this to imply that fluid bonding should be a REGULAR AND NORMAL PRACTICE early in relationships now?????

If you aren't part of a long term relationship with someone, USE SOME FUCKING COMMON SENSE AND USE A GODDAMN CONDOM. People could have STDs and not even KNOW IT. Don't be FUCKING STUPID. Don't risk your life for little heightened sensation.

and guys, if you just can't keep it up with a fucking condom on, LEARN TO LOVE MASTURBATION. Likewise, if you aren't using condoms because the church says NO, then you shouldn't be having PREMARITAL SEX either. If you are going to follow the church doctrines, then FUCKING FOLLOW THEM ALL THE GODDAMN WAY.

and yeah, I am a bit grumpy about this. And YEAH I HAVE EVERY FUCKING RIGHT TO BE.

THE REASON THAT NEITHER MY SISTER NOR I EVER GOT TO MEET OUR OWN FATHER IS THAT HE DIED OF AIDS A FEW YEARS BEFORE WE WERE OLD ENOUGH TO HUNT HIM DOWN OURSELVES.

And yeah, I know a couple of the people on my friends list have Aids. And yeah, several other friends of mine outside LJ have Aids. And no, I don't.

Date: 2005-02-06 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrrlily.livejournal.com
1. This is a good and important smack in the face kind of post and I think you might want to consider making it public.

2. Thank you for spelling masturbation correctly. It's a pet peeve of mine.

Date: 2005-02-06 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
okay, I edited the reason I made it friends only, and it is public now. :D Thanks for giving me a poke in that direction.

and of course I spell it correctly. It's something I enjoy, and encourage others to enjoy as well. ;)

(and I made the other comment all invisible and stuff).

Date: 2005-02-06 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-equine.livejournal.com
It is a wonderful thing to me that for the last 10 years, all, yes all of my lovers have *automatically* reached for or asked for a condom. Yet another reason that I love my friends.

Date: 2005-02-06 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
hallelujah on that. :)

Date: 2005-02-06 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkphoenixrisn.livejournal.com
Amen to all of the above.

Date: 2005-02-06 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangerous-beans.livejournal.com
Right on. You've said exactly what I've thought, and said to many friends. Instead of STDs, they end up with kids and with two exceptions, no longer friends of mine. Their loss, my relief.

Exceptions being my absolute best friend from childhood who has three and is happily married and still completely in love with their Daddy. And another good friend who went about the whole love-marriage-kid thing traditionally, even if the kid was an oops.

Date: 2005-02-06 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
I know a few people that fall into that catagory. :)

It is *not* to *them* that I am speaking.

Date: 2005-02-06 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluejay23.livejournal.com
As a fervent condom user, i don't *stop* using them in relationships until 1)we have *both* decided and agreed upon doing so and 2)get *all* appropriate tests (with negative results) done before engaging in condom free sex.
No condom? No sex. You're out.
I have no desire to acquire fuck trophies in the forms of small parasitic humans or life threatening viruses.
This is a post that should never have to be made. This kind of knowledge should be common sense, but i applaud the fact that you made it.

Date: 2005-02-06 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
yeah, see, I thought that this was common sense as well. Which is why I was SO shocked to see that comment.

Date: 2005-02-07 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stroppy-baggage.livejournal.com
Never underestimate the occasional requirement to manual readjust peoples' reality with a harsh dose of common sense. Every needs a little grounding now & then.

And Jay is now my hero for the phrase 'fuck trophies'.

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Date: 2005-02-08 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shivacat.livejournal.com
i go further than that.
no fluid contact activities until all tests are done.

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Date: 2005-02-07 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] euterpe35.livejournal.com
"If you aren't part of a long term relationship with someone"

see, that's the problem... what if you *are* involved in an LTR with someone, and you believe them to be faithful, and they aren't.

I think the answer is no sex without condoms, *ever*. Because no-one can be trusted. :(

Date: 2005-02-07 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
I think that this is not always the case, really. There are those who *are* faithful.

And, considering how much polyamory there is around us, there are those who are *thoughtful* as well and always use condoms when they have extra curricular fun.

It is hard to know who to trust and when. But it is possible. *hugs* Not everyone is lying bastard. :)

Date: 2005-02-07 02:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-02-07 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domichan.livejournal.com
It's really my only option at this time, because I can't tolerate the hormones in birth control pills/patch/shot/whatever anymore. I feel I'm incredibly lucky to have caught absolutely nothing at all, not even HVP, in my early years (late 80s) when everyone expected that you were on the pill and no one really thought to use a condom. Soooo lucky.

Date: 2005-02-07 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
yikes!!!

Maybe it was a product of growning up in the nations per capita leader for teen pregnancy, but I had condoms pushed at me starting in 5th grade.

Date: 2005-02-07 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueslide.livejournal.com
Amen. It isn't difficult to take these measures, unless there is some element of power and abuse involved. It just isn't.

Date: 2005-02-07 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
yuppers.

Date: 2005-02-07 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evaria.livejournal.com
Condoms are a totally spiffy thing that I wish didn't make me feel horrible. I still use them till I can get test results from my partners and such, but god they're painful.

Date: 2005-02-07 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
have you tried both latex and vinyl? Have you tried sheepskin?

lubed and nonlubed?

do they all have the same results?

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Date: 2005-02-07 06:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-02-07 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krafen.livejournal.com
It's sad it needed to be said, but since it did, thank you for saying it.

Date: 2005-02-07 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
you betcha.

Date: 2005-02-07 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozitonaranjo.livejournal.com
I still like the phrase "fuck trophies".

I'm a BIG fan of condoms. Big fan! Unless you REALLY trust your partner (and your birth control, unless you WANT kids), condoms should be par for the course. End of discussion.

"Likewise, if you aren't using condoms because the church says NO, then you shouldn't be having PREMARITAL SEX either. If you are going to follow the church doctrines, then FUCKING FOLLOW THEM ALL THE GODDAMN WAY."

AMEN!!! I know too many people who ended up with fuck trophies because of this. Generally of the small human sort but I think that is just luck.

Date: 2005-02-07 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
indeed. :)

Date: 2005-02-08 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangerous-beans.livejournal.com
Than doubly yay for the fact that I was mostly smart.

Had I been all-smart I would've held out for the other twin, alas for thinking with the genitals and not listening to instinct.

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